San Francisco band that was a sort of post-punk "super group" featuring Ricky Williams (Crime (2) & Sleepers (4)) - vocals, Craig Gray (Negative Trend) - guitar, Paul Hood - guitar, Tim Mooney (Sleepers (4)) - drums, Johnathan Henrickson - bass. The group morphed out of the final line-up of Negative Trend after Will and Steve left and eventually formed Flipper. Ricky Willams was a major influence for Mark Eitzel, who sang on their 3rd album. Tom Mallon, their producer and eventual drummer, produced and drummed for American Music Club. Tim Mooney became a studio owner and producer and later drummed for AMC in an arcane sort of wife-swapping deal with Mallon.